Subject: Central Hip Fracture Dislocation

Referred to OTA List from: Indiaorth_list by Girish Kumar Fri, 31 May 2002 06:24:11 -0500

Date: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:26 PM

Dear All,

The Acetabular floor is also fractured as seen on CT scan images, I am attaching for your opinion.

Patient is ready for surgery and I have all kind of implants ready-----

Kindly advice what to do and how to proceed......approach, exposure , head extraction, how to build medial wall-----should it be like you did it with iliac crest cortical graft, or morcelised graft or should I try to get the fragment back from the pelvis.

I did not operate the case today as I felt I needed to be better prepared with implants and your advise.

Harpal

Dr Harpal Singh Selhi
Adult Joint Reconstruction Surgeon

Date: ??????

From: Mangal & Selhi

harpal,

this is not the kind of situation where one should do a total hip reconstruction IMHO. a thr is in essence a "cold", "reconstructive" procedure. using it as a reconstructive procedure for trauma is possibly stretching the indication a bit..... esp. when in the younger patient.

i would certainly operate to get the head out of the pelvis, reposition the fragments better to create as good a acetabulum for the future (maybe even morcellise the head, and leave it in the floor of what used to be the acetabulum), and treat him akin to a girdlestone for the present time.

i would be cautious, and wait for some consoldiation, maybe 9 months to a year, to have some semblance of an acetabulum, and then consider an uncemented prosthesis. that way he will possibly have a better long term outcome. this i think is one of the situations where good sense must prevail over technical ability and availibility

mangal


Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00:23:30 -0400 (EDT)

From: Girish Kumar

Dear Mangal & Selhi,

here is my opinion. please see if you agree. dr derek cooke from riyadh, saudi arabia did also contribute his opinion saying he would take the head out through the ilio-inguinal approach & bone graft the area in the same sitting & the do a 2nd stage uncemented rim-bearing THR 12 weeks later. that seems a good way to manage it, but I wonder whether a delayed THR would be enough in itself & avoid 2 procedures.

I agree with Mangal that this is certainly NOT the time to do a THR of any kind. Looking carefully at the CT And Xray images, the case is a central fracture-dislocation of the hip with a fracture neck of femur. the involvement of the antr and postr walls is not significant, mainly only the medial wall is involved. the femoral head is fully inruded into the pelvis. using traction is not going to bring the head out of this position. operating and removing this head fragment will be really difficult as there is no hold on this head to push & pull against.

I think IMHO that leaving it as it is and wait for the femoral head to resorb as will happen will be the best option so that there is no further trauma to this already seriously traumatised area and THR later will be a much easier option. if you think about it, the medial wall contributes very little to the stability of a THR anyway. the main areas of weight transmission are the superolat roof which seems intact here. there is an undisplaced fracture through the superior roof of the acetabulum which should heal fine with traction and bed rest, toe-touching WB thereafter.

This is only my humble opinion & what I would seriously consider in his best interests. even if the head did not resorb, which I doubt very much, it does not pose any problems in later THR. The ONLY need to take out this head fragment is if there is any ASSOCIATED urinary or other intra-pelvic compression due to this fragment. Remember also that there could well be bleeding by meddling and pulling out this piece which will be impossible to stop with our extra-pevic approach. I am thinking of cross-posting this case to the OTA lsit with Dr selhi's permssion,

Am sure it would elicit a lot of heated discussion......... Tough case and it will be even more tough to keep our itching surgeons hands off it now too....!!! let us know what you do and keep us updated.

With warm regards & best wishes,

Dr N V Girish Kumar

Trauma Care Specialist
O'Brien Bone & Joint Centre
RS Puram, Tamil Nadu State, India


Reply at: Orthopaedic Trauma Association forum

Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:47:39 -0400

From: James Carr

I had one exactly like this. It was diagnosed acutely, and I took it to the OR in the middle of the night. The femoral head pulled out easily- fortunately no pelvic vessel injury. I fixed the femoral neck, and he went on to bipolar hip at one year. I would do it now before things heal in and scar down. I would recommend pelvic angio. If the vessels look displaced/involved, it can be approached thru retroperitoneal approach as is done with medial migrated hip components (references exist in JBJS for this) The thought of leaving the head where it lies is interesting. You could then just do a hip replacement as per your preference. Take the head out later if needed. The acetabulum is split superiorly, and needs to be plated. On the case I had, the acetabulum spread nicely with a lamina spreader, and this helped retrieve the head. A standard cup has plenty of bone to support it because the ant/post/superior columns are present. However, failure to plate the acetabular fracture will likely result in the cup not fitting snugly, even with screws thru the cup (which I would recommend). I personally would give him a metal-metal hip.

Jim Carr


Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:20:53 -0700

From: Chip Routt

Do you have patient information, injury history, physical exam, date of injury, medical issues, etc.?

I wonder why it wasn't reduced and fixed urgently?

I've only seen this injury pattern in 4 patients, all young adults. They were all referred late at night, or on a weekend. Three were/are obese...maybe that's why they survive.

Each was treated with urgent femoral neck open reduction and stable internal fixation, then the acetabular fracture was treated as its pattern dictated.

They have all healed. Two were without problems - one has nine years of followup...she comes to the clinic annually as her "field trip" from the jailhouse. The other has only one year of followup, so stay tuned.

The third patient developed a femoral neck nonunion with implant failure and early focal aseptic necrosis, and was treated successfully with implant retrieval and corrective proximal femoral osteotomy. He subsequently had a hip replacement.

The fourth patient healed the fracture, but she has symptomatic hip pain and aseptic necrosis. She is morbidly obese with a variety of confounding issues.

Technically for your patient, the head/neck fragment is easily retrievable and the quadrilateral surface fracture can be well reduced and stabilized using a Stoppa exposure and intrapelvic plating. At the same anesthetic/prep/drape, the head/neck femoral fracture can be reduced and stabilized using an anterior exposure of the hip joint...I'd use a Smith-Petersen interval. The neck fracture fixation screws are inserted percutaneously in this situation after the open reduction is clamped.

Chip

M.L. Chip Routt, Jr.,M.D.
Professor-Orthopedic Surgery
Harborview Medical Center
Seattle, WA


Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:47:29 -0500

From: Adam Starr

This is a bad problem for this 30 year old guy. I wonder what "can afford" means?

I've had one like this. My patient was a 50 year old lady. Her acetabular fracture was worse. We fixed her tab fx the day she came in, and anatomically reduced the femoral neck fracture. The ligamentum teres was still attached to the head. Her tab healed well, but the head went on to AVN at one year. She underwent a total hip replacement and has done well.

In this patient, it's too bad he's 2 weeks out.

You'll need to be able to get to the quad plate to reduce and fix it. Maybe a stoppa approach.

If, by some miracle, there is some soft tissue still attached to the neck, you could try to stuff it back through that hole. It probably won't fit. It looks like the tab opened up wide to let the head into the pelvis, then slammed back shut and trapped it. I bet that crack in the dome was displaced a lot when the injury occurred.

So, you'll probably have to take the head fragment out through your stoppa approach.

Once you've got the quad plate piece reduced and fixed, I would fix the fracture at the dome with screws placed from the AIIS to the PIIS.

Far as the neck fx goes, I vote for anatomic reduction and fixation. I would use a smith-pete approach. You could use cannulated screws, or even standard 6.5 screws to hold your reduction.

Adam Starr
Dallas, Texas


Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:07:13 +0000

From: b.meinhard

Although a case report does not a series make...I published such a case in the JBJS American (J Bone Joint Surg Am 1987 Apr;69(4):612-5), where I removed the head through the hip capsule and fixed it with cannulated screws. I then performed a primary muscle pedicle bone graft to the femoral neck as described by Meyers. The patient did well . If there is medial instability, one can add an ilioinguinal approach to graft and or place spring plates for medial support. I would prefer this to performing a total hip replacement in such a young person.

B. Meinhard, MD


Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:50:33 -0500

From: girish kumar

Jim Carr: I had one exactly like this . . . I personally would give him a metal-metal hip.

this case is 2 weeks old, has had a popular treatment round these parts, still so unfortunately, of native oil massage which causes a lot of fibrosis and heterotopic ossification. this same oil massage done around the elbow results in massive volkmann's contractures too, as you might have read in books. we actually see it here clinically even today, very much less in my part of south India than up in the north.

back to thic case, I am recommending delayed THR so the fracture would have healed well by then. the laminar spreader use in this case is very interesting indeed.

what metal-metal hip are you using? how long have you been doing it? do you trauma guys do elective THR's and TKR's as well?

Dr N V Girish Kumar

Trauma Care Specialist
O'Brien Bone & Joint Centre
RS Puram, Tamil Nadu State, India

Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:50:32 -0500

From: girish kumar

hi, answering chip routt's and adam starr's questions and queries in one go. thanks for your input. agree with most of it.

>Do you have patient information, injury history, physical exam, date of injury, medical issues, etc.? I wonder why it wasn't reduced and fixed urgently?

young fit 30 yrs old patient, presents 2 weeks later after oil massage native treatment no other injuries, sciatic palsy etc. no AV injury clinically. no dopplers done to confirm this though. can't tell you exact mechanism of injury, will ask and let you know.

>Technically for your patient, the head/neck fragment is easily retrievable and the quadrilateral surface fracture can be well reduced and stabilized using a Stoppa exposure and intrapelvic plating. At the same anesthetic/prep/drape, the head/neck femoral fracture can be reduced and stabilized using an anterior exposure of the hip joint...I'd use a Smith-Petersen interval. The neck fracture fixation screws are inserted percutaneously in this situation after the open reduction is clamped.

yes agreed, an ilio-inguinal or stoppa approach will be necessary to get the head out. also grafting can be done simultaneously. but question is - will this be highly necessary if we are planning an elective THR in 3 mths time after the dome split fracture has healed fully with conservative management. here in india, most patients are not insured, want 1 surgery to do everything and are highly unrealistic in their expectations. that is just one point to be remembered in suggesting a course of treatment, but not to be allowed to decide the whole course of rx. so the term "can afford" is all important, in deciding whether we need to rack our brains to decide on what surgery we can do! if he cannot pay for treatment, it is only an academic excercise to improve our management plans and protocols. my point is, leaving the head alone as it is 2 wks old fracture, has been massaged and moved, unitl presenting to the tertiary centre, is better than "heroics" of fixing it now. am sure there is no reference on delayed internal fixation for this type of fracture, with the severity of injury which must have caused it. so with fixing the head out of the equation, is there any advantage in fixing the quad plate and grafting?? granted that as much bony contact is better in an uncemented cup for long term success, can we not just do cancellous bone grafting of the medial wall in delayed setting at the time of elective THR in 3 mths time?? this would be better than staged surgery as all the advantages of grafting, THR are all there without the added surgical trauma of plating, another exposure, cost etc. what do the you all think about this approach?

With warm regards & best wishes,

Dr N V Girish Kumar

Trauma Care Specialist
O'Brien Bone & Joint Centre
RS Puram, Tamil Nadu State, India

Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:47:08 -0400

From: James Carr

Primary THR in young man like this is certainly controversial. I mentioned metal on metal, but metal debris is a concern. I have been doing them since release a few years back, but certainly it does not have the f/u like other systems. Delayed approach is just fine.

Jim Carr


Date: Tues, 4 Jun 2002 11:30 AM

From: Bill Burman

>if he cannot pay for treatment, it is only an academic excercise to improve our management plans and protocols.

Dr. Kumar

Thank you for contributing this case. Given the economic constraints described in your posts, I am wondering if even delayed THRA is advisable for a 30 year old active male. According to the literature, the likelihood of a necessity for revision surgery in such a young patient would be high. According to Maloney, JBJS 83A:1582 2001, THRA revision burden in the US is 18% of 200,000 total hips done in this country per year. The average cost per revision is $19,200. The total cost is $691 million/annum - a figure that is (for a smaller population with a relatively robust economy) increasingly difficult to afford.

Given the reports of apparently tolerable results with procedures such as girdlestone which occassionally appear from your part of the world , I am wondering if you can tell us whether these are indeed viable options or are such reports in some way flawed?

Bill Burman, MD
HWB Foundation

Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 00:13:30 +0530

From: DR T I GEORGE

Hi Bill,

In our institution we still manage to convince younger patients about arthrodesis of the hip as a good option and many do accept it. I wonder what is the experience with others.

DR T I GEORGE,
Consultant Orthopaedic surgeon,
Polytrauma, Microvascular Surgery and Hand Surgery Unit,
Metropolitan Hospital, Trichur, South India.


Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 23:01:29 -0500

From: girish kumar

dr burman,

thanks for your interesting response. yes, you are quite right in suggesting the option of girdlestone hemiarthroplasty in certain "economically constrained" situations. i am sure this pertains just as much to the US as it does in India in certain economic groups. Am I right in saying this - in Medicare population etc??? DO confirm this point for my knowledge of medical needs around the world.

also, with reg. to this particular case, the line which said - " can afford" is all important. BUT whether he can afford a second & third & ..... much more expensive revision with not so acceptable results as well is another matter.

we "overseas" trained surgeons are not at all familiar with Prof Tuli's treatment & results of this technique. if it does work as well as he has suggested, it may be more ideal than the present THR's as our patients(rural & lower socio-economic group) like to and do squat crosslegged on the floor routinely incl. the "Indian" toilet which requires squatting with feet flat on the ground & abdomen-thigh-calf in Z apposition(wow, hope somebody understands what I mean!!!), as in the picture in prof tuli's paper on the hwbf website. however, even locally, there is a dearth of research & cases to look into this difficult problem. but also remember that I can do a THR here for at a rock-bottom charge of Rs 80,000 to 100,000( or USD 1750 or 2200...!!!) including the cost of imported Charnley Elite or some such standard imported prosthesis at rs 40,000 or so. even a TKR, I can do at slightly higher prices, but nowhere near the costs reached in the USA or in the West. Also remember that I have only imported equipment like a Synthes drill , Smith & Nephew & Arthrex arthroscopy stuff etc as you would have there. But it is a sad fact that even at this cost, a lot of our population are unable to afford it. Of course, if you send me a patient from the USA, I would like to charge a bit higher to enable me to buy another new piece of equipment or have the luxury of a holiday ;-))

Dr N V Girish Kumar

Trauma Care Specialist
O'Brien Bone & Joint Centre
RS Puram, Tamil Nadu State, India

Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 06:32:01 +0100

From: rajesh

I hope Dr.Girish Kumar does not mean to generalise when he says " overseas trained doctors". Before becoming overseas trained, most of us are actually trained in India and are aware of Prof Tuli and his girdlestone followed by several weeks of skeletal traction. (at least, we should be-there is no point in forgetting ones roots, I think - a good method of treatment is a good one whether it is developed in India or elsewhere). He has written a very good monograph on Treatment of tuberculosis of joints as well.

I don't think one can actually compare prices and say a THR done with "imported" implants is cheaper in India - the purchasing power of ?1 or $1 is not really the same as 1 Indian rupee! Are people without medical insurance treated very badly in the US? In the UK the National Health sevcice, for all its faults, does deliver free health care at quite a good quality most of the time and it is indeed a relief not to have to think whether a particular patient can afford to get the best treatment.

And as someone said, it does not really hurt to advertise a bit as well ;-)

Mr.K.Rajesh, MS(Orth), DipNB(Orth),FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
Locum Consultant
Tameside General Hospital
UK.


Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:43:36 -0500

From: Adam Starr

Dr Kumar,

I'd never pretend that delivery of surgical trauma care in the USA is perfect, but I can tell you that a patient with an acetabular fracture who arrives at our hospital here in Dallas will be treated regardless of his/her ability to pay.

We don't make surgical decisions based on insurance status or Medicare status or whatever. The hospital I work at is a county hospital that receives county, state and federal tax money to support its care of indigent patients.

If we didn't get that tax money support, the hospital couldn't run.

The hospital WILL bill the patient for services provided, and if the patient is truly indigent, we'll try to enroll them in a "managed care" program for indigent patients.

Adam Starr
Dallas, Texas


Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 14:56:39 +0000

From: b.meinhard

I can echo what Dr Starr had to say , and add that since my public hospital is in the east coast near Kennedy and Laguardia airports, we often receive alien patients sent by their families with severe medical conditions..including patients from India,for whom we are required to treat with the highest standard of care in the community ,REGARDLESS OF THEIR ABILITY TO PAY. Again not perfect, but we take the good with the bad.

BPM


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:59 AM

From: Bill Burman

Drs. George, Kumar and Rajesh

Thank you for your interesting replies.

"economically constrained" situations. i am sure this pertains just as much to the US as it does in India in certain economic groups. Am I right in saying this - in Medicare population etc???

This is true. Medicare is the main health insurance provider for patients over 65 in the US. With the sharply rising cost of medical care, the Medicare trust fund faces serious depletion. As noted in the CATC Reports circulated by Jeff Anglen to this list, the US Congress faces hard choices and is debating whether to cut payments to doctors or prescriptions to seniors. Some doctors here now say they will have to stop taking care of Medicare patients.

Are people without medical insurance treated very badly in the US? In the UK the National Health service ,for all its faults, does deliver free health care at quite a good quality most of the time and it is indeed a relief not to have to think whether a particular patient can afford to get the best treatment

We have a complex healthcare system in the US. One has to have an MBA and go to years of business school to understand it. It is one which will not routinely provide for health maintenance (e.g. hypertension meds which a senior citizen on a fixed income may not be able to afford). However, should that patient blow-out a cerebral vessel, the price of treating a persistent vegetative state with 2-3 weeks of intensive care is generally paid (in part for fear of contingency fee litigation) through cost shifting to those with insurance or a higher tax burden to cover the public hospital's bad debt. The price of that medical care probably could have bought hypertension meds for a whole city that year.

Speaking personally, I am very proud of the sort of medical care that colleagues such as Drs. Starr, Meinhard and others in our public hospital system provide (even though there is a resemblance of it to a National Health Service).

Bill Burman, MD
HWB Foundation

Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:51:10 -0500

From: girish kumar

hi all,

"interesting" how discussions on the OTA list always turn out into "controversies"!!!!! which is why I like this list so much for its vibrancy & deep sense of righteousness and integrity. i hope it keeps it up for ever & ever - will remain rooted to the list for as long as that is so. I have learnt a lot from this thread reg. the way the US system works though I am yet to get an MBA ;-)

whatever my e-list colleague dr rajesh says, i would like to add the following points reg the healthcare system in india.

the private sector is totally cut off from state funding and hence cannot afford to treat non-paying patients routinely. there is a move to have some funding channeled for some specialities and some cases, but overall it is not enough. trauma is certainly not an area where this is so now, like it or not. this is sad, bad and mean, but that's the way it is & it doesn't help to brush it under the carpet. i like to state things - warts and all, hoping to improve things. but let someone come out and say i am wrong in my facts.

the state system is entirely separate & by God, I would not want to be admitted and treated there in my state anyway. there are centres which are quite good, but overall it is not impressive frankly speaking. we can only improve when we admit there is a deficiency. yes, i "love" the NHS(as it used to be, i must add ;-) ) and its egalitarian ethos and service to all, but i do not think it is so now from what i hear.

prof tuli is a great man, but i must say i have never any case treated in such a way in my 2 yrs in ortho training in madras before going to the ~UK and would love to hear from colleagues who are familiar with this method and enlighten me and others on this list as to how good it is in real life & practice. if it is as good as it seems, why do a THR at all? obviously it is not as good, for other wise we would be doing more such excision arthroplasties routinely.

And as someone said, it does not really hurt to advertise a bit as well ;-) why not, especially if it is true......;-))

come on rajesh, we should rise above "national" and other limits and speak the truth even if it hurts. i came back to india voluntarily as i am patriotic and deeply "indian". but let us not hide from the truth. i am sure we all agree there are a lot of improvements necessary in the state(ie Govt)medical system.

rajesh, so please tell us your personal experience of excision arthroplasties similar to prof tuli's article and how good they were in your opinion.

thanks to all for the wonderful replies.

Dr N V Girish Kumar

Trauma Care Specialist
O'Brien Bone & Joint Centre
RS Puram, Tamil Nadu State, India

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 06:22:05 +0100

From: rajesh

I am sorry if I have been the cause for turning this list into a less academic one with my comments.;-)

Couple of things- I have NO experience of excision arthroplasty,never said I did. Reason why we don't do it more often ? -not needed in the UK for the majority of cases as the NHS absorbs the cost.I have tried to interest some consultants I worked with to try to use it when infected THR's are removed but nobody was really keen to try a 3rd world method which even the 3rd world surgeons were reluctant to use.( not sexy enough like a THR? can't charge as much as a THR? "if the doctor down the road can do THR why do you want to do an excision?" )

Why the situation does not change in India ? - too many "patriotic " people keen to accept that things "cannnto change" and not enough people trying to change things.(not really worth their while,is it? when patients are willing to pay for their operation,who cares about the ones who cannot-send them to the government hospitals !)I know two of my friends who went back to India from the UK who have made arrangements with their hospital to allow them to operate on poor patients with massively reduced charges, no surgeon's fee etc.It is not difficult to do but obviuosly not going to make much of a difference in the large scale of things.Also as one of them said,his colleagues are quite happy to let him do this because that means atleast some of the paying patients will filter down to them because he is too busy with the poor !

If people actually tried to make the government hospitals better instaed of saying"I would not have myself treated there" things could improve but it has been going on for too long and as long as politicians know that they will not suffer (best private hospitals, best surgeons etc available to them) it will remain like that.Sad but true.

If I were going to offer to operate at reduced rates on people from the states or UK or wherever,I would make sure that each patient contributes toward buying some implants in order to benefit the population(maybe sponsor a THR if they were having one done?)We used to make patients who could afford buy 2 sets of implants when we were doing our training in India (2 nails instead of one etc - as patients had to buy implants in our medical college)so that we had a common pool of spare plates, screws, nails etc when we needed them for a poor patient.We also managed to get the medical reps to donate screws etc from their company.Is it that difficult to do that? I recently met some of my colleagues who are assistant professors and lecturers in my previous medical college and apparently they are still doing that for trauma implants eventhough nobody is really keen (or rich enough) to buy two sets of hip replacements,it seems ;-)

Once again, sorry for straying from the academic.

rajesh

Mr.K.Rajesh, MS(Orth), DipNB(Orth),FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
Locum Consultant
Tameside General Hospital
UK.


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:31:43 +0530

From: DR T I GEORGE

Dear Girish Kumar and Rajesh,

It is a litle saddening that we have downgraded our discussion forum to a non -Orthopaedic platform. If all of us are interested in improving the system in India I feel we should discuss this in Indiaorth discussion group where we will get more constructive and practical contributions from people who have been in India for years and have first hand experience. We all know that you both take part in Indiaorth discussions. Let us not wash dirty linen in public.

SORRY IF I HAVE HURT YOUR FEELINGS.

DR T I GEORGE,
Consultant Orthopaedic surgeon,
Polytrauma, Microvascular Surgery and Hand Surgery Unit,
Metropolitan Hospital, Trichur, South India.


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:14:05 +0300

From: Alo Kullerkann

Dear Members,

I would like to say a word for so called non-academic mailings.

Why not to discuss things not straight related to fracture, surgery technic, implant or etc.? I read with a great interest of mailings from Drs Rajesh and Kumar. Not that I favour "need one, need to buy two" but its just interesting how orthopaedic related things keep going around the world. Orthopaedics is an art that has many facets and one of them is a management. I wouldnt say that we should start deep discussion about one or another narrow topic, but implant feeding is certanly one part of it, even in developed countries where one can afford the best treatment for the patient not having to think how much it costs.

Last but not least - there is always a delete button on your screen :-)

Best regards,

Alo Kullerkann, MD.
Orthopaedic Resident
Mustame Hospital, Tallinn
Estonia


Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:01:24 -0500

From: girish kumar

Hi Rajesh,

points well taken indeed.

lots of good points, wil mull over and see what i can do to immprove the situation. i am having a full range of imported instruments and expertise to provide care at "subsidised" rates. one thing i can vouch for is high quality care if they come to me. but yes, as a part of society, there are things that need to be done to improve the working of govt/state hospitals too, as a large sector of poulation cannot afford the private care facilities. i am having a full range of imported instruments and expertise to provide care at "subsidised" rates.

Talked to a surgeon from Salem, a smaller city where I visit once a month for arthroscopic & arthritis surgery, he mentioned seeing a few cases and having done an excision arthroplasty for an infected hemi-arthroplasty, with reasonably good results. I will try and track him down and get some pictures for the list. He says the there will be a limp, but the patient will be able to walk around the office etc, but may not be able to do a labouring job, which is ruled out anyway after a THR(!!). It seems a worthwhile option if circumstances dictate, just that it will take some time to settle down to a reasonable activity state what with intial traction and then prolonged limited mobilisation status. have to thank bill burman for bringing this article to my notice, my colleague from salem also denied knowledge of this particular publication by prof tuli. so it is very interesting to see how convoluted the route of knowledge has been here & again brought into focus the educational aspect of such email lists.

indeed, india is going to turn into a healthcare exporter soon, with lower-cost hitech surgery, the only thing needed is tightening up protocols to enable really high quality consistently all the time. so i will only be too glad to offer my services at a "reasonable" cost to those willing to come over. charges are not what our profession is about - primarily, i mean.

as allo said, it is not only technical expertise that makes a successful surgeon, esp. in the private sector ;-)

Dr N V Girish Kumar

Trauma Care Specialist
O'Brien Bone & Joint Centre
RS Puram, Tamil Nadu State, India